“Getting The Boat” – Abortion, Rape and Ireland


I have avoided writing about abortion, deliberately, because it creates an ethical dilemma for me – that’s not an excuse – it is a reason.

Of all the “issues” that feminism has twisted, distorted and hijacked for its own corrupt ends, and they are all corrupt – abortion is the one that leaves the foulest taste in my mouth personally.

The Dilemma.

I believe abortion is wrong, I believe it is ending the life of a potential human being, it is killing a baby. At the same time I believe that every individual has the right to bodily autonomy, to make decisions, whether medical or not, as to what they will or won’t have done to, or upon their own persons

I chose to believe this, informed by my own personal moral and ethical code. You may choose to believe whatever you want to believe.

Moving On.

It was actually with some trepidation that went to read the article that Mike Buchanan linked to on the Justice for Men and Boys (and the women who love them) site. 

He  had previously addressed this issue in this article, 2015: Abortions since the Abortion Act (1967) – 8.2 million projected – will exceed the population of London, or the current combined populations of Scotland & Wales. Posted on July 13, 2013.

To be honest I was expecting……..actually I’m not sure what I was expecting.

Many of the comments on this article noted how misleading the title of the article was, insinuating that the abortions, and in one woman’s case, two abortions, they’d had, had somehow affected their ability to have children, when in fact it was their personal choices that brought them to a point in their lives where they remained childless.

The most pertinent comment I believe was this one:

Marshian, Romney Marsh, 10 hours ago

Yes, the “Womens right to choose” lobby have had the whip hand for far too long. They have made termination seem the easy and right first choice when sometimes it is any thing but. Many women go on to regret aborting a healthy child when they realise that not only have they been a party to the death of something precious but it turns out they can’t have another. I’m not against abortion but I am against how easy it is and the way it is promoted as the best solution.

With the exception of nedical imparement of the mother or child adoption should be the first consideration in ALL cases. And please don’t tell me it is easier for a mother to have a child killed than to give it up. At least with adoption they will know their child exists even if they can’t have another. Yes I’,m an adopted child so I have a vested interest, but than goodness abortion was not the easy option 60 years ago it is today.

Because it speaks to three things, the framing of the debate around abortion as a right to have a particular “medical procedure”, second, divorcing abortion as an act without moral and ethical implications and third as a unilateral decision that rests in the hands of women alone.

Let’s take the first, superficially an abortion is a medical procedure performed on a female, whether it be by ingesting chemicals or as an actual medical intervention, the result of either method is to end the potential life of a human being.

Feminists talk about the “right” to have an abortion” the “right to choose” as being where this ends – rarely do they mention that exercising this “right” has wider consequences, and broader implications that simply undergoing a medical procedure, the right that they imply is the issue, the core issue, is the right to bodily integrity.

If one was having a cyst removed, or some benign mass that had invaded your body then obviously there are no moral or ethical ramifications.  But a foetus is NOT, I repeat, NOT simply a “mass of cells” what we are talking about is a potential human life, a being with potential sentience, the very essence of what a human being is. What we are talking about is a baby.

With regard to the last point, that abortion is solely a “woman’s” issue – NO it is not, that tiny growing life is a creation that would not exist, or have the potential to exist, without an EQUAL contribution of genetic material from one man and one woman.

The fact that this tiny human being is gestated in the body of the female half of this human equation has been over-hyped, over-emphasised and given far too much credence. You gave UP your right to unilateral bodily integrity when you conceived that tiny human being.

It might BE your body nurturing this tiny human being, but that tiny human being IS a separate and distinct potential person, a separate entity, you are a vessel, like it or lump it, YOU as a female are performing a service, a biological service FOR another human being, and you consented to performing this service, when you had sexual intercourse, with or without taking preventative measures to impede the conception of this tiny human being. Even if you did take contraceptives measures and they failed, as an autonomous human being YOU consented to take responsibility in the event that this might happen.

In fact, I will go further, in the event that a female does not wish to parent a child, and the putative father does, then I absolutely support and endorse enacting legislation which prevents this female from aborting this child.  Further, that a provision be put in place which immediately grants full custody of this child TO the father, the moment this child takes its first breath.

Yes, I can hear the howls of protest, the screams of outrage at “forcing” a woman to undergo the trauma of pregnancy and childbirth.

Bullshit, total and utter bullshit, cant and drivel.

To all intents and purposes, pregnancy, normally progressing pregnancies do NOT impact upon your day to day life to any great extent till about week 20 to 24 – about half way through – with the greatest physical impact not really manifesting itself till about week 30 – 32.

As a rule, pregnancies last between 38 – 40 weeks, with 40 weeks being the average – of my three pregnancies that “went to term” they were 42 weeks, 39 weeks and 36 weeks.

So, in reality what we are talking about is a period of between 20 and 24 weeks when you MIGHT experience some discomfort – about 3 – 4 lunar/calendar months.

So, please, putting up with heartburn, constant peeing, a bit of backache, some tiredness and perhaps a weird craving or two for 3 – 4 months is not worth the life of another human being?

As for the “trauma” of childbirth – two choices – vaginal birth with epidural – caesarean with either epidural or general anaesthetic – get the fuck over yourselves, is all I have to say to women who make a song and dance about the “trauma” of childbirth.

As for all the other bits and bobs of “childbirth” stitches heal, milk dries up, your cervix “recovers” in about six weeks – the sheer selfishness, self-absorption, pathetic miserable egotism of women who wail and screech and have hysterics over putting up with some minor inconveniences in order to save the life of a tiny human being is beyond disgusting, beyond comprehension. To me.

Abortion As a Medical Procedure.

As I’m sure many of know, I’m Irish, I live in Ireland and it would be remiss of me not to address the abortion issue as it pertains to Ireland, and came to a head with the tragic case of Savita Halappanavar.

Without one shred of doubt I can say, that girl should have, without hesitation, had her pregnancy terminated, in fact neither she nor her husband should have had to ASK for her already miscarrying pregnancy to be terminated.  It should have been done the instant it became clear that this she was miscarrying. No questions asked.

When it comes to a life-threatening situation, when the pregnancy is no longer viable, when the life of the mother is at stake then it is absolutely the correct and right thing to do to terminate.

If it also becomes clear that the baby would NOT survive, would not even take one breath because of severe abnormalities or a condition which is or would be “incompatible with life” then a termination is the correct thing to do, if that is what both the parents and the medical personnel deem to be the best course of action.

But, the “issue” that feminists  used to blackmail, to coerce and to get “abortion on demand” as not just a legal right, but to embed it into the consciousness of an entire culture is this one: – “what about women who get pregnant as a result of rape or incest” implying that hundreds if not thousands of raped or sexually assaulted women would be forced to carry their abusers babies to term. Raising the spectre of “backstreet abortions” being carried out on terrified and helpless women and girls.

The tragic case of Savita Halappanavar was, in my opinion rather cynically used by both sides of the abortion “debate” in Ireland – with both sides utilising their own exaggerated and/or flawed arguments. I’m personally not sure which side is worse, the “abortion on demand” advocates or the “under no circumstances” advocates.

I am inclined to come down on the side of saying it is the “abortion on demand” advocates, for the simple reason that, absent any genuine medical reason for terminating a pregnancy, they simply want not just the right to kill unborn babies, not just the right to have no-one question or condemn them, but they want to do this because they just don’t want to be pregnant.

The Situation in Ireland.

This was the actual situation in Ireland in 2011, according to the RCNI National Rape Crisis Statistics and Annual Report 2011.


Less than one out of ten female survivors of rape became pregnant as a result of the rape (7%). Although pregnancy is not a typical outcome for survivors who are raped (93% of females who were raped did not become pregnant as a result of the rape), this information is significant because of its impact on survivors and therefore important to present. Of those who became pregnant these were the following outcomes:”

From Graph 36: Pregnancy outcome for survivors (%) n=90 (Page 55)

Parenting 53%

Termination 19%

Adoption/fostering 14%

Miscarriage/still born 12%

Combination 2%


From their one page leaflet entitled What does RCNI National Data Collection tell us about rape survivors and termination of pregnancy, the RCNI put these percentages into context.

“In 2011 2,036 female survivors of sexual violence attended Rape Crisis Centres (RCCs). Of these, 90 girls and women became pregnant as a result of rape.

Of the 90 females who became pregnant as a result of rape there were a range of outcomes:

 Seventeen survivors of rape had their pregnancy terminated

Twelve survivors who became pregnant had their child placed for adoption or fostering

Forty eight survivors of rape went on to give birth and parent their children

Eleven survivors of rape miscarried or had stillbirths

Two survivors became pregnant more than once as a result of rape and had different outcomes in each Pregnancy

We had a Census here in Ireland in 2011, and according to that census there were 1,022,437 females between the ages of 15 years and 44 years in Ireland, adding in the age cohort of 45 years to 64 years brings that total up to 1,545,073.

That number of 2,036 that the National Rape Crisis Network of Ireland cites represents slightly more than 0.2% (2,044.874) of 1,022,437 and slightly more that 0.13% (2039.496) of BOTH totals of Irish women and/or women living in Ireland on the night of the Census.

To reiterate – there are two possible percentages – 0.2% or 0.13% of women in Ireland sexually assaulted in 2011.

To give you an idea of how ludicrous the claims of feminists of a rape culture in Ireland is. Either the 1 in 4 (25%) or 1 in 5 (20%) figures so carelessly thrown about, yes I mean you Una Mullally and the latest wretch to peddle this crap Laura McInerney

1 in 5                           1 in 4

20%                             25%                          Total Female Population       

204,487          or         255,609                       out of   1,022,437                   

309,015          or         386,268                       out of   1,545,073

Can you see the huge difference between the ACTUAL figure released by the NATIONAL Authority and collector of statistics and data on rape and sexual assault in Ireland and the myths, the lies peddled by feminists?

So, what does this all have to do with the issue of abortion?

Everything, because in order to peddle abortion as the God given (no pun intended) “Right” of every woman, feminists have whipped up hysteria, peddled lies and falsified data and statistics around hot button topics like rape to justify, to enforce, and to blackmail governments into enacting “abortion on demand” legislation.

Finally, of all the poisonous and dishonest and downright false myths peddled by women and feminists this is the one that makes me sick to my stomach.

It’s the hardest decision any woman has to make, women don’t make this decision lightly!”

Absolute and utter garbage, taking responsibility for the consequences of the act you participated in and putting aside your own selfish needs, wishes, plans and whatever bullshit excuses women come up is a hard decision, is a difficult choice to make – killing your unborn baby isn’t – it has nothing to do with what’s “best for the baby” but everything to do with “how soon can I get rid of this huge responsibility and continue to LIVE MY LIFE” – while snuffing out the life of an innocent.

I have of course sympathy for that small but tragic number of women who become pregnant as the result of a rape, and to be honest I was heartened to see these figures.

Seventeen survivors of rape had their pregnancy terminated

Twelve survivors who became pregnant had their child placed for adoption or fostering

Forty eight survivors of rape went on to give birth and parent their children

Eleven survivors of rape miscarried or had stillbirths

Two survivors became pregnant more than once as a result of rape and had different outcomes in each Pregnancy

 More than half of these women gave birth and decided to parent these babies, of the rest, at least 12 more either gave their babies up for adoption or fostering – only 17 or barely 20% terminated, and I am willing to concede that this in and of itself is a double tragedy.

What these figures don’t explain are the numbers of women who simply abort their unborn babies because they don’t want to be pregnant.

“Between January 1980 and December 2012, at least 156,076 women travelled from the Republic of Ireland for safe abortion services abroad.”

That’s nearly 5,000 women a year for 32 years, and before anyone jumps in with “ah but it was a different time” indeed it was, I was there, I remember it, clearly – it was just before the introduction of what was called Unmarried Mothers Allowance, which eventually morphed into Lone Parents Allowance. It was a time when “Getting The boat” was something you always had the option to do. That is, if you couldn’t give up, at the most 3 – 4 months of your life, in order that the human being you helped to create HAD a life – which makes you a selfish miserable excuse for a human being.

You just wanted to destroy the evidence of your stupidity, your lack of care and in some cases the result of a failure of contraception – which is clearly a possibility – a remote possibility – but a possibility.

As I was growing up here in Ireland I, along with every other female learnt the meaning of that phrase – “Getting the boat” it was said casually, almost dismissively – it was the solution if the absolute worst happened – not the worst in terms of trauma, or upset, but the worst in terms of inconvenience and “hassle”

Getting the boat” was the Irish solution to unwanted pregnancies – this would also be before being, inconveniently pregnant, morphed into “crisis pregnancies”

It is almost the default expected position to give women who have abortions the benefit of the doubt, and one is deemed to be almost inhumane if one questions either the circumstances or in particular the motives of women who have abortions – you may have noticed that I referred always to either tiny human beings or babies – because I refuse to endorse or give any leeway to those who try to weasel out of stating what an abortion is – it is terminating the potential life of a tiny human being, a baby.

Absent the situations I outlined above, medical emergency or threat to the life of the mother, or a baby that would not survive, or truly traumatised sexual assault victims, abortion is a selfish choice; it is putting superficial needs above a human life.

Do I support your “right” to make that selfish choice? Absolutely, but I reserve the right to look upon as you, not as a victim, as a poor tragic female but a selfish and shallow miserable creature who puts superficial “needs” above the sanctity of human life. Tiny, potential vulnerable human life.


© Anja Eriud 2014 

6 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. John
    Feb 21, 2014 @ 04:08:03

    During the last days of the former Gillard government in Australia, chemical abortion drugs were put on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (“PBS”) by the then Health Minister Tanya Plibersek. Plibersek is on EMILY’s List (i.e. women promoted for government positions on the basis of being a woman) and former Minister for the Status of Women.

    Anyway, I remember seeing Plibersek in the media pushing for these abortion drugs emphatically stating that they are “essential to women’s health” and citing the World Health Organization’s similar position. I was not aware that a healthy pregnancy was a disease. The consequence is that taxpayers now fund anywhere from ~$350 – $800 per such abortion which typically represents approximately ~90% of the total cost.


    • Anja Eriud
      Feb 21, 2014 @ 22:19:01

      Hello and Welcome John

      I wasn’t ignoring your excellent comment, but every time I went to reply it ended up being a bit of a rant. The sheer level of vileness that one needs to descend to, to characterise an abortion, the termination of the potential life of a tiny human being as “a health issue” leaves me wanting to smack someone – preferbly a feminist – and I abhor violence – in or from anyone.

      Medical emergencies, a woman/girl who has already been traumatised by being raped, and yes it does happen, we know and acknowledge that, without lessening the equal trauma that boys and men suffer from being sexually abused and raped.

      But from a sheer biological perspective – I can concede that a girl/woman being pregnant as a result of a rape might just be more than this small number of a small number of women who are raped and pregnant as a result are able to bear. and be given some leeway.

      Vitamins and proper nutrition during pregnancy – yep – thats a “health issue” but toxic chemicals designed to poison and kill a tiny developing human being a baby?

      I have no more words – none that would not involve some really choice language.

      Thank you for your comment and for the information John.



  2. Emma Byrne
    Feb 21, 2014 @ 20:47:56

    Brilland article, as a woman & parent i agree with every word you said. Pity the rest of the planet can’t see thru the bullshit!!


    • Anja Eriud
      Feb 21, 2014 @ 21:28:12

      Hello and Welcome Emma

      Thank you for your comment, much appreciated, with regard to the rest of the planet, the only thing to do is keep calling bullshit over and over again, till one by one they listen.




  3. Ciaran
    Feb 21, 2014 @ 22:07:58

    Very good article, I agree have have always agreed with your position. However you have included some points I have not heard before with strengthened my view. Well said.


    • Anja Eriud
      Feb 21, 2014 @ 22:24:13

      Hello and Welcome Ciaran

      Thank you for commenting and I am grateful that I have added something worthwhile to your own thought process’s



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